To discuss all things related to the GCSE Latin qualification.

  • Paula Kuit posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 1 week, 2 days ago

    CLC Book 4, stage 33, page 88, mentions si with the indicative future perfect tense. In CLC Book 5, examples are used on page 115 and 117 of the Language Information section, again with the indicative. The GCSE syntax requirements were only conditional clauses with the indicative. Not sure if that is still the case as I have retired.

  • Sally-Ann Edmonds posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 1 week, 2 days ago

    I have been trying to find in which of the 5 CLC books that conditional clauses are introduced, more specifically the grammar detail, not just them being used. Can any one help me?

    • The nearest I can get is Stage 33 (CLC Book 4) which introduces the future perfect. If I remember correctly, CLC doesn’t really introduce conditionals in their own right, probably because the majority of that grammar point is left to A-Level and GCSE concentrates on conditionals with the indicative.

      ‘Essential GCSE Latin’ by John Taylor may be of…[Read more]

      • I think this is right, although it might be worth checking the grammar summaries at the end of the Teachers’ Guides for the CLC books – these might tell you where the construction first appears even if there is no grammar explanation of it. Because open conditions (with indicative) more or less translate themselves I don’t think they are…[Read more]

      • I agree – The John Taylor book is a very good introduction to the basics.

    • The CLC does not have a section explaining about conditionals in Books 1-5 and it only has examples of conditionals with the indicative. As Catharine says the open conditionals do not usually cause any problems. Conditionals with the subjunctive have not been on the GCSE syllabus and are still not on either exam syllabus now. The Cambridge…[Read more]

  • Brian Bishop posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 1 week, 3 days ago

    Latin grammar: although I thought we had overwhelmed Rachel Jones in answer to her query, I have just alighted on this site, which, at undergraduate level, gives a pretty thorough coverage, including reference to English. Fascinating. https://classics.osu.edu/Undergraduate-Studies/Latin-Program/Grammar


    • It doesn’t seem to work for me. All the letters with macrons are missing when I open it on my computer.

    • I hope Rachel (and others) have patience! A long, literate and comprehensive set of explanations, but no examples!

    • Thanks for that. I’m back in Modern World History mode now as it’s back to school tomorrow, but it’s game on! I’ll have a chat with our head in the next few days and report back on his thoughts. Having left declensions etc to stew in my brain for a while they are actually falling into place a little. I now genuinely understand why Rufus in the…[Read more]

  • Rachel Jones posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 2 weeks, 1 day ago

    Once again, thank you to all who’ve helped. Some help here and some email direct so this is to everyone whose responded or emailed.

    I confess I haven’t read all the links and attachments people have sent yet, but I will do at some point.

    The decelentions are un-fogging a little. If I don’t think of them as a ‘thing’ and more of just a fancy…[Read more]

    • Dear Rachel
      There are just too many things to think about when learning any new language so don’t let yourselfget bogged down with too much terminology. All the fancy words like “declension” and “conjugation” and even “case” are not all that important. Latin like every other language needs to organise its sounds (or words when written) into some…[Read more]

  • Rachel Jones posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 2 weeks, 2 days ago

    Well, after a fabulous start I’m totally bewildered by declensions. I’ve got no clue. Don’t get them at all. I’ve tried various sites to try and understand it, but while I understand most of the English words used in the explanations, together it’s just gobbledegook. How something like “For the masculine singular second declension nouns, -us…[Read more]

    • By the way, apologies if this is something someone has already sent me. I’m just a little frustrated that I seemed to start so well and then got completely stuck. I don’t want to go any further until I understand this as I get the feeling that it’s quite an important piece of foundation work that I’d better get right or else I’ll have trouble…[Read more]

      • Hi Rachel! Please see Nigel’s comprehensive post about how declensions work. If you were looking for just “what actually *is* a declension” then the answer is it’s a posh word for ‘group of nouns that have the same pattern of endings”.

        Nouns that end in -a when you look them up in the dictionary will be first declension. In some text books they…[Read more]

    • Starting to learn Latin could be summarised as “memorise five noun declensions and four verb conjugations and how to use them.” Both tasks are related to Latin being a highly inflected language, which again requires some explanation by comparison to English.

      English uses word order to show the function of nouns in a sentence. “The boy loves the…[Read more]

    • Hi Rachel, You can see a slightly different explanation on my website “Pyrrha’s Roman Pages” on the Latin Language page. It might help … http://www.pyrrha.me.uk

      Good luck and do email me through the website if you would like to.

      All the best from Anne

  • Rachel Jones posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    Morning.

    I’m still toying with how I want to introduce classics to our school and have been researching the new OCR GCSE Latin (Minimus and Entry Level is as high as we go at the moment). I want to personally sit the Classical Civilisation exam, and now I’m thinking I would quite like to sit the Latin one too (the new 1-9 ones, not the ones…[Read more]

    • For self-study, Reading Latin by Peter Jones is a good choice. You have my book and the answer key, which is old-fashioned but will give you a solid grounding in composition, which many books don’t.

      While you’re studying Latin, keep the Galore Park and CLC books around, so you can see how they introduce the language at a differing pace and…[Read more]

    • Just a note to say thanks for all the responses. I’m feeling a bit more “tooled up” now and am even considering taking the plunge and offering to run an early morning session for year 9/10 pupils to take the course with me!
      I’ve read all the messages and still need to action some, but I’m grateful to all who responded.

      Rachel.

      • Might I suggest ‘English grammar for students of Latin’, Norma Goldman & Ladislas Szymanski, The Olivia and Hill Press, ISBN 0-934034-03-6 for problems across the board?

    • Hi Rachel,
      have you checked whether there is a Classics Hub locally, supported by Classics for All? There are, I believe, two kinds:
      a) support groups run by Classics teachers for people like you who want to introduce Latin but may not know enough to start;
      b) out-of-hours Latin classes at one local school which invites interested pupils from…[Read more]

  • Liz Jackson posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 1 month, 1 week ago

    Does anybody have any practice papers on Aeneid I they’ve cobbled together and would care to share? I’ve made some and am about to upload them to resources, but would love more, as my pupils are monsters for wanting to do hundreds of ‘past papers’ (even though I’ve told them there aren’t any and muggins has to write them). Thanks!

  • Paul James Cowie posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 1 month, 3 weeks ago

    Quick question re Virgil, Aeneid I, set verse text for the new syllabus… Line 429 has variant readings in different resources between ‘alta’ (apparently in most manuscripts) and ‘apta’. Does anyone have access to the Oxford Classical Texts edition (cited by the OCR specification) in order to confirm which reading we should be using? Don’t want…[Read more]

  • Christopher Grocock posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 1 month, 4 weeks ago

    For copyright reasons nothing from the Cambridge Anthology can be posted on this site but if anyone would like specimen question material on Messalina & Ummidia Q. and would have anything to share please contact me on cgrocock@bedales.org.uk

  • Nigel Gourlay posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 2 months ago

    I’ve published a second edition to my collection of Hillard & Botting’s exercises, and have 18 free copies to give away. Email your postal address to me, and you can have one: ngourlay@gmail.com

    H&B’s Exercises were popular for most of the last century as an introduction to Latin composition, from absolute beginners up to the point at which North…[Read more]


  • Ben Tanner posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 2 months, 1 week ago

    With the new CSCP website, I find I can no longer access the ‘teacher’s notes’ or any of the other useful bits for the WJEC Level 2 Cert in Latin Lit, and specifically the stuff for 9542 Ovid’s Met. There are just copies of the text and vocab list.

    HELP!

    Has anyone downloaded a copy of the notes for teacher which they wouldn’t mind sharing with me?

  • Steve Jenkin posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 2 months, 2 weeks ago

    NEW LINK…

    Peter Kruschwitz on Ummidia and Messalina.

    https://youtu.be/8mEPSHha8e8

  • Steve Jenkin posted an update in the group Group logo of GCSE LatinGCSE Latin 2 months, 2 weeks ago

    Peter Kruschwitz on Ummidia and Messalina.

    https://youtu.be/8mEPSHha8e8

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